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[[User:AlainD|AlainD]] 19:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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: I like it.  Junkyard wars is always fun.  Give the teams a certain budget, certain amount of time, and a lifeboat.  But would like them to all stay within a few miles of each other and if they are all different designs this might be hard.  Also, we probably want some computer control that will try to keep the group together, so we probably need to provide the autopilot, thruster, and solar panel. 
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:Actually, even a full kit and plans would be interesting.  Having people build the seastead and launch it would be challenging enough.  Let them have a kit, a crane and an instruction book on how to use the crane.  [[User:Vincecate|Vincecate]] 23:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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Yes, something like the [http://www.asi.org/adb/05/lunar-solar-sail-race.html race from earth to moon by Solar Sail] of Arthur C. Clarke. We want to prove human can migrate to sea. So the objective of the competition is to make long-term survival as confortable as possible. Speed, design, maneuverability, internal facilities, social life organization does not count, unless by what it brings to sustainability...
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Two questions:
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* Why should the team receive a kit and a lifeboat. In my idea, each team builds its own: spar, bubble, circle, square, above-water, under-water,... The only rule is that each team has to prove its seastead is safe. Less costly for us, more chalenging for the participant and more fun for the spectators.
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* My sailing experience tells me there is no way to keep floating objects together. Waves tends to move them apart. Except mooring or enclosing in a large (... how do you call them ...) tension circle. But why to keep the group together? I think one of the key element to long-term survival is to position the seastread under the right weather condition: enough rain to have plenty of fresh water and enough sun to grow your food. So diverse path way will give us precious information. Again, less costly, more chalenging and more fun.
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What's the next step? To define the rules of the competition to post it on the net?
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[[User:AlainD|AlainD]] 17:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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: I would want them to stay near each other so that the filming crew could reasonably move from seastead to seastead.  Also, we will have a safety boat in case something happens, and for this to watch all of the seasteads they need to be sort of near each other.  I think 10 miles is probably ok. 
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: The open ocean is dangerous.  I don't think a producer/tv-network could take on the liability of different groups going out in the ocean in their own design/construction.  So a kit might reduce the risks to an acceptable level. 
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: Next step?  I think we need at least one full scale prototype before we start looking for a producer.  [[User:Vincecate|Vincecate]] 05:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:10, 20 October 2008

I think it could work.

You can also make it a competition from the construction phase : each team has, say, 1 year to devise and build its own seastead.

The structure and form does not count in itself in the competition, but it will have a major impact on the way people lifes in and on the social organisation that develops during the migration.

The TV show is good, but a dedicated blog per team (inculding small films) may also have a great potential.

AlainD 19:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I like it. Junkyard wars is always fun. Give the teams a certain budget, certain amount of time, and a lifeboat. But would like them to all stay within a few miles of each other and if they are all different designs this might be hard. Also, we probably want some computer control that will try to keep the group together, so we probably need to provide the autopilot, thruster, and solar panel.
Actually, even a full kit and plans would be interesting. Having people build the seastead and launch it would be challenging enough. Let them have a kit, a crane and an instruction book on how to use the crane. Vincecate 23:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


Yes, something like the race from earth to moon by Solar Sail of Arthur C. Clarke. We want to prove human can migrate to sea. So the objective of the competition is to make long-term survival as confortable as possible. Speed, design, maneuverability, internal facilities, social life organization does not count, unless by what it brings to sustainability...

Two questions:

  • Why should the team receive a kit and a lifeboat. In my idea, each team builds its own: spar, bubble, circle, square, above-water, under-water,... The only rule is that each team has to prove its seastead is safe. Less costly for us, more chalenging for the participant and more fun for the spectators.
  • My sailing experience tells me there is no way to keep floating objects together. Waves tends to move them apart. Except mooring or enclosing in a large (... how do you call them ...) tension circle. But why to keep the group together? I think one of the key element to long-term survival is to position the seastread under the right weather condition: enough rain to have plenty of fresh water and enough sun to grow your food. So diverse path way will give us precious information. Again, less costly, more chalenging and more fun.

What's the next step? To define the rules of the competition to post it on the net?

AlainD 17:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I would want them to stay near each other so that the filming crew could reasonably move from seastead to seastead. Also, we will have a safety boat in case something happens, and for this to watch all of the seasteads they need to be sort of near each other. I think 10 miles is probably ok.
The open ocean is dangerous. I don't think a producer/tv-network could take on the liability of different groups going out in the ocean in their own design/construction. So a kit might reduce the risks to an acceptable level.
Next step? I think we need at least one full scale prototype before we start looking for a producer. Vincecate 05:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)