https://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&feed=atom&action=historyUser:Vincecate/BallHouse - Revision history2024-03-28T13:25:49ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.31.1https://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=6845&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Low Cost Design Champ */2012-12-14T10:36:56Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Low Cost Design Champ</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=5883&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Materials */2010-06-12T22:26:22Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Materials</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=4335&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Idea */2009-07-29T14:45:39Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Idea</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=4334&oldid=prevVincecate at 14:43, 29 July 20092009-07-29T14:43:30Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One way to stabilize the ball is with a [[HangingBallast]].  There would be four or more ropes going to a single ballast well below the ball.  </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=3647&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Low Cost Design Champ */2009-02-01T05:25:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Low Cost Design Champ</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=2531&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Experiments 3 - deep water outside Island Harbor */2008-09-23T01:31:55Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Experiments 3 - deep water outside Island Harbor</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=2418&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Living space above the sphere */2008-09-15T14:17:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Living space above the sphere</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=2417&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Expendable porch */2008-09-15T14:14:44Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Expendable porch</span></span></p>
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</table>Vincecatehttps://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php?title=User:Vincecate/BallHouse&diff=2394&oldid=prevVincecate: /* Full Scale Ball House in Plastic */2008-09-12T21:22:17Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Full Scale Ball House in Plastic</span></span></p>
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